Saturday, November 14, 2009

Why, Muslims? Why? - part 2?

Please refer to my previous post, "Why, Muslims? Why?" for the 10 questions.





PM = Prophet Mohammad.





1. If Islam is tolerant and promotes peace, then why the Quran contains verses that are anti-infidelism and urges Muslims to have war against the non-believers? You may have your good faith but I have my facts. There're hard evidence that Quran contains such verses. Don't BS with me on that by saying Islam is peaceful.





2. The statement above justify why many Muslims choose to bomb people in the name of Islam.





3. If Islam is spread by word not sword, then why in the world PM waged so many religious war during his time? I suppose you'll say it's for self-defense?





4. Islam does punish leaving Muslims by death and hell and more than that. Don't BS with me. It was as if it's telling the Muslims that Islam is the ONLY true religion and to leave it is death.





5. PM advised pagan followers to limit marriage to just 4? Then why did he married more than just 1, since he's unlike the pagan followers that marry 50? To take care of the women's welfare? Why can't he make do with adopted sisters and daughters? Do Muslims understand this question?





6. Idol worshippers DON'T think the idol IS god. They worship deities. Deities are NOT God. But the real reason idol is needed in some religion, which not even the worshippers realize, is to remind the followers of the good characters the deities possess that should be emulated. Remember - Good characters to be emulated, NOT idol-God worshipping. Understand this, Muslims and non-Muslims.





7. The moment Muslims claim Islam as the 1 and only religion, he/she indirectly looked down on other religions as being inferior. Moderate Muslims may say Islam doesn't look down on other religions. But let's ask yourself Muslims, do you really see other religions as equal and on par with Islam? Your actions (claim Islam as the only 100% true religion, that other religions worship something else, etc) justify your ignorance of other religions and look down on them.





8. Jihad is to conquer the self. Even Buddhism and Hinduism taught this. It's to conquer our hatred, greed, selfishness, etc because there's no greater enemy than our own deeply-rooted weaknesses. There's no enemy outside our mind. In order to conquer others through Jihad, we must conquer ourself first through Jihad. It has nothing to do with self-defense. Self-defense from what? Non-Muslims? How? Bombing them up? Understand this, Muslims.





9. The last time I heard, covering up (for women) is because of Arab's sand storm, nothing else. But Muslims prefer to talk about decency and all that rubbish. For the beard, each Muslim has different answers. The fact is, many hardcore Muslims enforce beard-keeping as compulsory, religiously. If it's to emulate PM, then why not ride camels instead of cars since PM also rode camel?





10. Every year, Muslims sacrifice and slaughter loads of camels and cows when they can make do with fish and chicken. Even red meat isn't nutritionally healthy but Muslims still continue with that. In my country, Muslims mass sacrifice/slaughter camels and cows for new year every year. They do it in the name of Islam.





Sorry for being rough and rude but I'm just seeking for clarification.

Why, Muslims? Why? - part 2?
First of all I will say that you have alot and it is very hard to answer each question to a "T". I will try to do my best God willing. Second of all their is verses because their will be a time like the ones we live in now that muslim will have to fight the disbeliever and that is because their are so many non-muslims like yourself that try to put down muslims or try to make us believe like you do. We as muslims have to protect what we believe in as well. On your second question about muslims saying bombing is ok, that is BS their are exstreem muslims just like their exstreemest in other religon. True muslims are the ones that try to be at peace like PM. I don't agree with what they said the muslims did on 911 our any other situation. Islamic It is peace we want peace but Allaah has told us that other religons will raise wars and we will have to fight that is where jihad comes from so I don't know about all those other people that you said use the word they might be just mocking Islam. Yes I will say self defense about the war that was waged. PM and the believers where ran out of their home traveled across the desert sand because christans and others alike didn't like what PM had to say. Many muslims died by the hands of christans and when PM and the companions settled this is what Allaah told them to do. Prettymuch if they come this time fight and I will give each muslim man the streath of ten to fight. God is all peace but their is a wreath just like their is a hell fire. Many muslims died in those wars but we believe in Allaah and the last day so we fear nothing but Allaah. Their was a man that was in the PM times and he was muslim, he one day decided that he didn't want to be muslim anymore. No one did anything to him, but then he went around telling everybody that PM got all his info from him and talking bad about PM. So Allaah brought death upon him. They buried him three times and everytime they buried him the earth spit him back out he became an example of what happens to someone that was muslim and then goes againts Islam. NoBODY killed him Allaah did, so that is something that you might want to take up wilth him also I will do more reserch on that and God willing I will be able to write you with that. Their is however other punishment that I know is by death and alot of muslims would rather be punished by death on earth then the one in the next life, because Allaah has told us you can not be punished twice for the same crime that is mercy from Allaah. Islam is the only true religon if you study with a clear mind and not a prijdice one you will come to that understanding, Allaah has told us that he puts seals on peoples hearts and ears so I or anyone could talk to you till they are blue in the face untill Allaah is ready for you to get this understanding you will be forever lost. That is why some muslims look at islam as a gift because we could be walkin around blind like you and once that light is turn on it takes alot to turn it off. As for PM having more then four wives that is because Allaah allowed him to, Men outside of PM can have four, PM was a prophet sent to us by Allaah to give us a message. Their where kings that had hundreds and it became a mess sometime the women would only see him once every blue moon. The botttom line is PM was sent to give us order in a world of ceos just like it is now the only diffrence is now we have islam. I want to answer all your questions but you did write alot I dont want my answer to go on for days. So God willing I will see if I can type some more to you to answer the other ones later I also have to go pray. One more thing before I go I do want to address you saying the muslims bomb this country you need to look closer at what happen on 911, I am not going to say that some people from the middle east wheren't in on it but some people that are alittle more closer to home help. Islam and muslims had nothing to do with that, their were some muslims that lost their life. Just like I told you that PM had to defend his belief muslims today have to do the same they want to put it on us because islam is a religon that people that don't know it put it down instead of trying to understand it and get out of the box americans are in, we don't push Islam on no one we do believe that if you don't believe that Allaah is the one and only God and you don't share parteners you will not enter paridise, but this is not something that we push on any one and any muslim that you see pushing it on you is not conducting themselves as a muslim. Everything has a way of being handled that is why this is the fastest growing religon in the world that is mercy from Allaah.
Reply:Why are some questions too boring to answer?
Reply:didnt read it just tryna get 2 more points
Reply:Huh?
Reply:already answered in part 1


you are repeating yourself
Reply:Anybody who tries to oppress free societies, should have their asses kicked. Real bad. Atheist or religious.
Reply:you need to check out the list of behaviors that keep a person from entering heaven in the writtings of paul and then check your heart and be sure what you are doing does not fall into that one category.
Reply:WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR QUESTION? OR AR U JUST TRYING TO PROVE TO YOURSELF HOW INTELLIGENT U ARE?
Reply:Is this a question or an essay ???
Reply:Does he realise that it is possible to substitute the word 'christian' for 'muslim' in most of those questions?





I have another question. Who is more dangerous, the fundamentalist who is a suicide bomber, or the fundamentalist who leads the most powerful nation in the world?
Reply:Ok Mr. you know what your problem is .................You are a SHEEP. you just follow what ever media tells you. Firstly the Koran is a beautiful book. It teaches many wonderfull things. It is just that people have misused what is written in the book. Some laws in the K. are fit for those times but now and they need reform. You act as though other religions have no faults. The reason why today muslims are ignorant about the true Koran teaching is because Islam is a religion that developed in times of war. It did not get proper time and culture to develop. So i shall answer your every question.


1. If Islam is tolerant and promotes peace, then why the Quran contains verses that are anti-infidelism and urges Muslims to have war against the non-believers? You may have your good faith but I have my facts. There're hard evidence that Quran contains such verses. Don't BS with me on that by saying Islam is peaceful.


=It doesn't have any anit non muslim verses, It says that protect your religion and culture against all odds. Read it properly!


2. The statement above justify why many Muslims choose to bomb people in the name of Islam.


=They don't do it in name of Islam. It is because ever since they are small they are brain washed to hate US. They are ready to kill them at any cost. It isn't Islam that tells to kill. It is just the people misusing its name.


3. If Islam is spread by word not sword, then why in the world PM waged so many religious war during his time? I suppose you'll say it's for self-defense?


=Heyyyyyy as if christain weren't a part of the 100 year war. You suck.......can't you read history properly. He was attacked many times.


4. Islam does punish leaving Muslims by death and hell and more than that. Don't BS with me. It was as if it's telling the Muslims that Islam is the ONLY true religion and to leave it is death.


=It was a way of making people adopt Islam in olden times. Then again why do christains belive that Jesus only is our saver. Even you guys brain wash.


5. PM advised pagan followers to limit marriage to just 4? Then why did he married more than just 1, since he's unlike the pagan followers that marry 50? To take care of the women's welfare? Why can't he make do with adopted sisters and daughters? Do Muslims understand this question?


=Hey in those days the female population was realy high as many men died in war. Women if not married were treated bad,,,,so 1 man marring many was a culture. But PM knew that the problem will be solved slowly so he limited the no. to 4.


6. Idol worshippers DON'T think the idol IS god. They worship deities. Deities are NOT God. But the real reason idol is needed in some religion, which not even the worshippers realize, is to remind the followers of the good characters the deities possess that should be emulated. Remember - Good characters to be emulated, NOT idol-God worshipping. Understand this, Muslims and non-Muslims.


=You idiot in side deities are the holy books. So they on look to the deities to get the character stated by the holy books.


7. The moment Muslims claim Islam as the 1 and only religion, he/she indirectly looked down on other religions as being inferior. Moderate Muslims may say Islam doesn't look down on other religions. But let's ask yourself Muslims, do you really see other religions as equal and on par with Islam? Your actions (claim Islam as the only 100% true religion, that other religions worship something else, etc) justify your ignorance of other religions and look down on them.


=God! Islam doesn't say that. That is personal lack of tolerance. And YOU yourself lack that tolerance.


8. Jihad is to conquer the self. Even Buddhism and Hinduism taught this. It's to conquer our hatred, greed, selfishness, etc because there's no greater enemy than our own deeply-rooted weaknesses. There's no enemy outside our mind. In order to conquer others through Jihad, we must conquer ourself first through Jihad. It has nothing to do with self-defense. Self-defense from what? Non-Muslims? How? Bombing them up? Understand this, Muslims.


=People who bomb are TERRORIST. They are not muslims. They are creatures who misuse Koran.


9. The last time I heard, covering up (for women) is because of Arab's sand storm, nothing else. But Muslims prefer to talk about decency and all that rubbish. For the beard, each Muslim has different answers. The fact is, many hardcore Muslims enforce beard-keeping as compulsory, religiously. If it's to emulate PM, then why not ride camels instead of cars since PM also rode camel?


=You idot it is due to ignorance. Mny muslim women don't cover their faces. Go to Pakistan, Turkey and many other Islam nations that are developing ..


10. Every year, Muslims sacrifice and slaughter loads of camels and cows when they can make do with fish and chicken. Even red meat isn't nutritionally healthy but Muslims still continue with that. In my country, Muslims mass sacrifice/slaughter camels and cows for new year every year. They do it in the name of Islam.


=Hey why do you eat turkey or chicken. WHy slaughter them. And maybe they like the taste of red meat.............................








Look you am not a muslim. I am a Hindu. Yet I stand by Islam as every religion is beautifull thats why it attracts followers.
Reply:go to any Islamic center nearby as its very long and boring essay
Reply:some of ur questions have the same answer.. first .. you must know that whatever you do .. islam is still the perfect relegion inspite of your tries ...


i'll answer some of your question (the other is answered before )





(1) read the verses of qur'an well and know the complete meaning without cutting ... you can't get two words alone ..


(2) qur'an asks for peace and prophet muhammed came to ask for peace .. islamic greeting is (peace be upon you ) .. verses of qur'an orders moslems to go for peace ..


(3) islam didn't spread by sword .. use your mind .. how could one person forces the entire world to enter the religion .. and if the prophet muhammed forces moslems to enter islam , how could the moslems love islam uptill know ? ..


you answered the question yourself .. the wars is to defend the relegion ..


when the non believers knew about the islam .. they decided to destroy it and to fight it .. what do you expect for the moslems to do .. to stand still and do nothing ...(also is answer to number (1))





(4) moslems never leave islam .. i have never heared about a moslem left islam.. because moslems love islam with all their feelings .. and if so .. islam don't force anyone to enter the relegion .. that's what the qur'an said and orders moslems to do ..





(7) moslems believe in all relegions , prophets , holy books .. islam don't cancel the other relegions .. but came to complete them .





(10) the sacrifice (sheeps , cows .. etc..) every year is done by people (rich) in order to distribute the meat on the poor ... it's done to make the poor people happy ..





the other questions is answered many times before ..
Reply:I'm not even going to answer your questions because they are pointless. You need to get your facts right before you come up with any thing like that cause it sounds to me that you have just listened to what the media has to say and put your own twist on it and making out your all innocent and "looking for the truth". STOP BULLSHITING.


If you really wanted the answers to all your questions you would find them in the Quran if you read it properly it.





It is a religion of peace. The word islam means peace in it's self and if you did your research properly you would know that.


For your information It is the fastest growing religion in the world.


You know why? because it is BEAUTIFUL and people know that.


And again FYI 4 out of the 5 who convert are women and it is there own free will. Now, tell me some thing else about women being oppressed in islam?





PEACE TO YOU ALL from a muslim.
Reply:sorry but its too early in the morning for this essay test..and i don't have enough time.. everybody else is usually rude to us so why are you any different...but i do know in your first question someone did take the time to answer each one..i don't have the time to read all this now and respond..have great day...
Reply:My dear there is only one right but many wrongsMore than one right is impossible.There is only one creator God and muslims prayıng to only thıs God wıthout partnership and any statue or pıcture.Just compare wıth other religious whıch have some shapes and consider can they be all of them right?Chrısts are prayıng to a deathbody shape Buda have another shape a man wıth a bıg stomıc.Hıdu have many shapes.Whıch one can be correct?We pray to only one creator God wıthout any shape at the front of us.Just from our heart.War ıs always ın the world and muslıms must protect themselves and they can fıght only for God


orders not for petrol gold rape torture other people kıll and take theır land and get theır money.I tell you one story:Ali was the strongest man of the world.A jew asked to fıght wıth a muslım


he thınks he ıs very strong.Ali went to fıght wıth hım and throw hım down stepped onhıs arms wıth hıs knees and Jew cant move


Ali has the sword ın hıs hand to cut the head of Jew fıghter.Jew spat at Alı face whıle Alı was ready to kıll hım.Ali dıdnt kıll hım and stand up and saıd to hım:Go away and dont come to me agaın for fıght next tıme ı kıll you.Jew asked why you dont kıll me now?


Ali saıd:I dont now because you spat to my face and ı got angry ıf ı kıll you ı be a morder.That means ı kıll you for my personal reasons for hate.Jew became muslım.Islam ıs not only prophet


Mohammad.Islam contaıns whole prophets.Even old prophets were for Islam.Abraham Noha Moses Jesus were all Islam prophets.Do you know what happened to the muslıms who were belıevıng to prophet Jesus?Romans kılled them wıth lıons.There are muslıms now they do terror but we dont fınd ıt correct.Even after Mohammad many of hıs very close frıends were kılled by the terrorısts.Even Mohammad grandson Husseın kılled by terror.
Reply:Answers as long as you asked:





-Q 1. If Islam is tolerant and promotes peace, then why the Quran contains verses that are anti-infidelism and urges Muslims to have war against the non-believers?....





A. if Islam allow me to marry christian and jewish, then should i go kill my wife by now? NO. the Arab pagans used to torture anyone who convert to Islam, anyone become muslim his life become in risk, notice that God order muslims to fight those who fight them but to not exceed the limit.


[190] And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors. Quran 2:190





-Q 2. The statement above justify why many Muslims choose to bomb people in the name of Islam?





A2. 1st they are not many!!! stop with ur lies. 2nd terririst find excuse to get their frustration and anger out, but its against Islamic Law, they twist things around. Islam forbid killing an innocent soul with no rights, and whoever done this is like killing all people. also Muhammad (P) forbid killing women and children even if they were from among the enemies.





[32] Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. ........


Quran 5:32





-Q 3. If Islam is spread by word not sword, then why in the world PM waged so many religious war during his time? I suppose you'll say it's for self-defense?





A 3. will you be surprise if i said yes. the whole Arab pagans and even other tribes went against Muhammad and his followers and gave them hard time. the war of "Al-khandak" which proves it. the whole tribes of Arabia gather together to attack Muhamamd and kill them all. they betrayed Muhammad. to make story short Muhammad won the war. Muhammad does whatever God command him to do without arguing.





-Q 4. Islam does punish leaving Muslims by death and hell and more than that. Don't BS with me. It was as if it's telling the Muslims that Islam is the ONLY true religion and to leave it is death.





A 4. this is your God, worship Him alone. God is not a joke neither the Hell is a joke. regarding death if leaving Islam, there is some arguments about it. and if you want u can read this verse from the Bible to know Him more:





"And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel. And the LORD said unto Moses, 'Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'"


(Numbers 25:3-4)





-Q 5. PM advised pagan followers to limit marriage to just 4? Then why did he married more than just 1,...?





A 5. who is PM? you mean Quran order muslims to limit their marriage till 4. 1st God forbid for Muhammad to divorce any of his wives because they became part of the prophethood family. Muhammad has more responsibilities than normal muslims. not everything is about sex. and Muhammad could had as much women as he wish without even being a prophet, it was common practice in Arabia. most of his marriage was for protection reasons, show an example (yes u can marry a divorce, widow, older ladies, from the enemy, christian and jewish..). others were to take care of him as he married very old women. the youngest one was Ayisha, who's after Muhammad death she recorded 25% of his words and teaching, and carried his message to the next generation. Muhammad was a shy man, he couldn't answer women questions, he used to give them to Ayisha.





-Q 6. Idol worshippers DON'T think the idol IS god. ?





A 6. what you think is fine... to God is a great insulting. God made it very clear as to take no partners next to him. and nothing to be worshiped or prayed except Him, this is the unforgiving sin. either direct ur prayers to Him alone or else.





-Q 7. The moment Muslims claim Islam as the 1 and only religion, he/she indirectly looked down on other religions as being inferior. ?





A 7. muslims look at christian and jewish as "the people of the books". jewish think they are the special people, and christians think they are the only one who will recieve salvation. that could be some how true, as Islam believed to be the last warning from God and believed to have the truth from the lord.





-Q 8. Jihad is to conquer the self......Self-defense from what? Non-Muslims? How? Bombing them up? Understand this, Muslims.?





A 8 as you explain, Jihad has different meanings which is the struggle of ur own self. but there is also Jihad for military defence. it's a common sense that when your country is getting attack, u have to fight back to protect it. about Bombing and killing innocent people that's against Islamic law, so don't twist things around.





-Q 9. The last time I heard, covering up (for women) is .....why not ride camels instead of cars since PM also rode camel?





A 9. it's about whatever God command us to do shall be. women had to cover all their body except their face and hands, and men had to cover what's between their button and knees. regarding beard it's not required, but part of faith. Nuns also cover their hair and muslims are not the only religion that have beard. why this is such an issue?





-Q 10 Every year, Muslims sacrifice and slaughter loads of camels and cows when they can make do with fish and chicken.....They do it in the name of Islam.





A 10. have you ever been to any U.S. grocery store lately ? they have a depatment called the meat department which is full of all different kind of meat. muslim sacrifice animals for the sake of God, as they follow the path of Abraham. when God command Abraham to kill his son, but reward him of a sacrifice instead. well Islam follow the path of Abraham, and sacrificing animals is done in certain times and conditions. sacrificing means giving some of its meat to the poor and to the needy for the sake of God.








hope that helped.

lily

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